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Re: Bipolar Britney?

L K Tucker — Fri, 14 May 2010 09:58:54 -0000

One thing posters about mental illness don't understand is that the disorders named here don't exist as diseases. They are names given to observed and cataloged behaviors. At any time the names can change at the whim of the American Psychiatric Association, the authors of the DSM.

Psychosocial psychobabble reasons are given for her mental event. But it is significant that it happened after there had been two extra people in the home, the children. That points to a little known problem discovered when it caused mental breaks like this one. It happened forty years ago and designers solved the problem by 1968.

It's called Subliminal Distraction. So simple it can strike almost anywhere it requires a location where deep mental investment is used while there is repeating detectable movement in peripheral vision.

Most who have the episode recover with no treatment. Although known for forty years in Design it is unknown by anyone in mental health services.

VisionAndPsychosos.Net is a seven year investigation of Subliminal Distracti

Re: Bipolar Britney?

sadbuck — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 02:52:17 -0000

none of you have any idea about whats going on. its not her fault.

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April — Sat, 09 Feb 2008 18:05:02 -0000

Anonymous: Afraid to use your real first name? Go away...No one called for trolls here.

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Anonymous — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:50:34 -0000

She's got borderline personality disorder, just like you. Bipolar my ass. Get yourself educated and stop believing the pill pushers.

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Nutso? Crazy? — Fri, 01 Feb 2008 21:47:43 -0000

Aside from the stigmatizing labels, most of the discussion has been productive and supportive for Brit. I will say the girl has always been a bit kooky, but she is an entertainer, and I'm sure it's in her nature to be naturally gregarious....perhaps even odd. I too have bipolar disorder diagnosed at about the same age as Britney - I was diagnosed with bipolar II. However mine has gotten progressively worse....and my cycles last longer. I must say, when I watch her I tear up, even cry, for her. I know how it feels, and it's clear others living with the disorder that have commented do too. It's tough, and it must be excruciating being stalked by the paps and being paranoid at the same time. Hell, if I hear so much as a whisper I think someone is talking about me....I brush it aside, as hard as it is, but, for those who say it's part of her job...that comment is crazy. You better believe that crowds of people flashing bright lights in a person's face and crowding them so much they can't walk will contribute to the manifestation of the disorder and increase delusions.

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Now a PhD - Yeah! — Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:02:39 -0000

WOW - Excellent dialogue. I have lots of comments to add. First:
I'm 38 years old
Diagnosed Bipolar 20 years ago
Hospitalized 5 times, more than once taken in "kicking and screaming" (literaly)

In regards to Britney: seeing her go to the hospital (twice now) surrounded by police cars hits very close to home for me. Her release from the hospital earlier this month (after less than 72 hours), in my opinion, was more likely due to her team of lawyers than her need for treatment. I went through the courts 18 years ago (in MN) trying to refuse treatment. Thankfully, I didn't have high powered lawyers and the judge/doctors all agreed I needed continued care. I was "committed" to a state/regional mental health facility at age 20. BUT - it was the best thing that could have happened to me at the time because I was (like Britney seems to be) in DEEP denial over my mental health. I HOPE that none of you or Britney for that matter, have to go through committment proceedings.For me, though, it was the only way at that time in my life that anyone could get me to really look at my life, my mental health, and what my options were. While there I finally had to admit that I needed help in order to get better. If Britney does go "kicking and screaming" (which I think she may have this time) let's hope the docs (and her family) can impress upon her that she needs help without having to go through the drama of committment proceedings.

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Anonymous — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 19:13:01 -0000

no no no. healthy minded stars say that being in the light comes with the territory. you have to learn to be adaptable to it as what humans are great for. i understand everything else, but please no more about how hard it is to be watched by the public.

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kcd — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 19:57:04 -0000

I have come back from the brink of having postpartum depression and bipolar type II disorder. My heart aches for Britney. When you have a mental illness, you don't bring things on yourself. Your behavior gets so out of control that things just take on a life of their own. If anything happens to her the paparazzi should be held as accomplices to murder because no one can deal with the issues she has with flashbulbs popping in their face 24/7 and people just lined up waiting for you to fail. It's absolutely tragic. She needs help and she needs to go someplace like the Swiss Alps or something where she will not be bothered and she can meditate, pray and find her inner self again.

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karoli — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 18:30:28 -0000

Renee,

I was shocked when she was able to sign herself out. I thought 72 hours was 72 hours, but in California, it's not mandatory if she went voluntarily.

I don't doubt my own moods and behavior with respect to bipolar -- I know my ADHD is as ADHD as it gets, no more, no less.

When I wrote this post nearly a year ago, the press was pillorying Brittney for not being a better mother and being a gadfly. They practically celebrated when she shaved her head in full view of the paparazzi.

To me, it was a clear signal that something was not right. My point in speculating here that it was possibly something like bipolar disorder was to express the view that this behavior went far beyond self-centeredness or attention-seeking, and rather than pick on her, maybe some compassion was in order.

Here's my post on her possible 72-hour hold, the night she was taken in.

Had her family and Dr. Phil not been so anxious to intervene, perhaps the real doctors might have done her some good.

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Renee — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 18:19:00 -0000

Karoli

I was not aware of what happened 2 weeks ago.It does not sound accurate that she could sign out early. In FL or IL that cannot happen. I am really not a fan, I am more of a mental health advocate & am available to disseminate information about bipolar as someone who is a healthy patient and very well-read and informed. I see that you have some doubts about your own moods and behavior. Please do not jump to conclusions. I would never wish bipolar on anyone. It is a chronic, often deadly disease which is not easily managed. I have suffered dearly and hurt many people in my life. Please find yourself a psychiatrist. It takes a long time to get an accurate diagnosis. I wish you well.

I am sorry for Britney that when she was in the hospital there was not a mental health professional there who was able to reach her. Often in the hospital one meets a professional, a counselor or the psychiatrist, who they feel they can trust.

A psychiatrist has the authority by law to commit a person to a mental health facility. I hope her family, or her new boyfriend, tries again and again before it is too late!

Re: Bipolar Britney?

karoli — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 18:07:20 -0000

anonymous who commented here and said this:
think i have the same symptoms except i’m not showing it unless someone figures it out by himself, i admit i might be bipolar but there’s no one who can help me to get out of this mental illness i don’t know what to do with my self i’m just living and waiting to see what will happen in the future…if someone can give me help or advice he’s welcome.

Read Renee's comment above. Call a psychiatrist. If you don't have money for a psychiatrist, go to a clinic. Tell them your situation, be brutally honest. Above all, seek help. Please.

And come back and tell us how you're doing, okay?

Re: Bipolar Britney?

karoli — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 18:03:09 -0000

Renee,

Here's the problem: She was already been put on a 72-hour hold 2 weeks ago, to which she promptly signed herself out after 24-hours. I'm assuming she agreed to the hold in order to reserve the right to sign herself out early at any time.

She doesn't trust her family, she doesn't trust her friends, she doesn't have anyone she really trusts, she has had custody privileges revoked and there doesn't appear to be any way at this point to stop her from self-destructing.

I find that to be really, really sad. I'm concerned for her. She's an adult, so her parents can't force a psychiatrist on her. They would actually have to get guardianship (good luck with THAT) in order to force any kind of treatment on her for whatever her problem might be.

It drives me crazy to see the media just lather up in a feeding frenzy over her. Clearly something is not right, but there seems to be no way to help make it right, and the constant dogging by paparazzi is certainly no help.

Someone said that she's an attention seeker. Maybe, but her behavior now goes far beyond attention-seeking...she needs real help. I'm sad for her.

Re: Bipolar Britney?

Renee — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 17:52:59 -0000

Please listen up.

I am bipolar, age 44. I am now a highly successful individual and was diagnosed at the age of 31. This is how to help her:

Only a PSYCHIATRIST can DIAGNOSE bipolar. Her family needs to contact a psychiatrist. He can have her placed in a psychiatric hospital unit for 72 hours by law. (This has twice happened to me in Florida where it is known as the Baker Act. The police will pick her up). Although she will be involuntary, she will have the option to sign in voluntary. (I did). Otherwise the courts determine if she can be released after 72 hours.

Here she can get a differential diagnosis and get stabilized on medication and get a treatment plan before the doctor releases her.
This is HOW to get the girl help!!! Why hasn't anyone advised the family???? again - a PSYCHIATRIST, not a "psycologist" (or PhD-non-clinician, eg "Dr" Phil- ugh!...why did he not advise them on the proper procedure?)

Her family, friends, psychologists, and especially the media need to STOP surmising about bipolar.

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anonymous — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 06:23:25 -0000

i think i have the same symptoms except i'm not showing it unless someone figures it out by himself, i admit i might be bipolar but there's no one who can help me to get out of this mental illness i don't know what to do with my self i'm just living and waiting to see what will happen in the future...if someone can give me help or advice he's welcome.

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Gigi — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 02:25:09 -0000

To think the person that wrote this, did it almost a year ago and NOW is that the media is KIND OF saying that she has bipolar disorder... Her doctors must be really stupid.

I've seen this in person, my mom was a doctor so i was always around the hospital. I saw many with this disease and after reading this and thinking about all the historical data, britney really most have this.

So I still can't understand those who still say bad things about her. Yes she's been acting crazy, but if what she has is really a sickness of this high level, then what she needs is the media and fans support. And her family, maybe then she'll realize that she really needs help.

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Dottcal — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 17:49:27 -0000

I'm really concerned about Britney's sufferings. And it could be due to not only depression and fears but also postpartum disorder after birthing two boy's, or a mental illness. I know that raising a child on your own can be very scary at times if a person is depressed and doesn't recieve some kind of professional help. It can be terrifying. And unfortunately she may be so afraid to talk to someone about what goes on between her ears in fear that she may never see her kids again. And she must care about them or she wouldn't have put up such a stand off with her husband taking the children. If this is indeed what went on.

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Emliee — Sat, 05 Jan 2008 17:22:21 -0000

My X has bipolar disorder. When he was manic he shaved his head too. Britney shows all the characteristics of BP. I hope she gets the help she needs.

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Diana — Sat, 05 Jan 2008 13:21:27 -0000

HATS OFF TO YOU for your blog entry about Britney. I believe with enough love and care by her family and by a qualified doctor, the old Britney we all loved can return. I don't think Britney is an addict, or that she does not love her sons, or anything of the sort. I think she needs professional help and needs to be OUT OF THE SPOTLIGHT while getting it. When every story you see is negative, it only makes the problem worse. If Britney were to commit suicide in the midst of all this, it would be a great tragedy indeed. Britney needs love, prayers and SUPPORT. What if every bipolar individual in the nation had their daily activities covered in the news? Would recovery be swift? I don't think so. Media needs to give the girl a break and treat her with respect. Just my two cents.

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Josh — Sat, 05 Jan 2008 02:36:02 -0000

It is interesting to note, with the developments today, that Sinead O'Connor may have diagnosed Britney as bipolar back in October 2007 on Oprah. It looks like both family and medical professionals are confirming this today.

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Mike — Fri, 04 Jan 2008 14:52:14 -0000

I'm kind of pissed off how much the media, the justice system, and apparently the people close to Britney keep palming this off on substance use. As someone with a clinical background, it seems pretty obvious to me that something else is going on other than substance abuse. I think this is a great opportunity for people to learn about bipolar, if that is what she has, or some other mental disorder. To keep on ascribing her problems to alcohol or drugs does not do her nor the people who actually suffer primarily from alcohol and drug addiction any favors.

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karoli — Fri, 04 Jan 2008 14:27:05 -0000

Roon,

I'd like to think we're not feasting on her. If she didn't constantly have public meltdowns she wouldn't even be a blip on my radar, but in her case they're so extreme that it worries me.

Thinking back to other celebrities who died because of their disorders and their addictions (Elvis, Marilyn Monroe, etc...) I'd like to hope this could have a different outcome.

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Roon — Fri, 04 Jan 2008 08:25:14 -0000

I am a clinician and I with folks with bipolar and borderline personality disorder. I tend to think Britney looks bipolar, especially since a lot of this crazy behavior started after she had babies (postpartum onset). Plus, her artistic temperament and the substance abuse fit the bill. She doesn't look BPD to me.

With that said, I think ANYONE would lose it if they had Britney's life. Honestly, if I had her life I would move to a ranch in Utah with my remaining money and disappear. Although she can't, because she has to share custody with Federline. I don't think the poor kid has any coping skills. This is what we do to celebrities in this culture, and then we watch them spiral down and feast on it.

Which, of course, I guess I am doing by being on this site!

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Mya — Fri, 28 Dec 2007 16:15:11 -0000

I'm the mom of a bipolar daughter (now 18). I agree with previous posters in that Britney's behavior fits clearly in the bipolar spectrum. Medication and therapy can do amazing things and could completely change her life for the better. She doesn't have to live this way. Britney, see a good psychiatrist, take meds that will work for you, and be well!

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Anonymous — Mon, 24 Dec 2007 22:22:06 -0000

I was diagnosed Bipolar 2 years ago along with Borderline Personality Disorder. I was in denial for a long time. I didn't cummunicate with my doctors if I had I think I could have saved my life sooner than much later. Britney get help before something bad happens. Don't let the media get to you. Don't give them too much power

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james — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 04:27:54 -0000

i guess topfloor neglected to read any of the previous comments. but thanks for reinforcing the prevalent ignorance.