DISQUS

lelawilley · 4 months ago

I agree we need to get the most we can and then go for more as we can. I like the idea of a opt in for Medicare/Medicaid with no age limit.

Would like to see no pre-existing, employer mandate, lower costs with regulations on the insurance companies, etc.

I keep hoping for the whole ball of wax.

Karoli · 4 months ago

I would settle for opt-in for those over 50 with the other reforms. And I will PAY. Whatever I would need to pay would be nothing compared to what I'm paying right now. I will be happy to bolster the system to have peace of mind.

lelawilley · 4 months ago

I bet there are a lot who would. It can't be any more expensive than COBRA payments or going out to try to purchase private.

I tried to purchase private almost 15 years ago because the school I was in didn't have an insurance plan. I could get one for daughter but not me because I had had fibroid cysts and had a hysterectomy. I was healthy at that time. I know there are a lot more just like that out there.

dotlizard · 4 months ago

I'm with you, ready to settle for getting our collective feet in whatever door is made available to us, knowing that if we reject what we can get, anything else will be a long time coming. If we choose to focus on flaws, which are subjective, consensus (among the Pro Reformers) would be impossible.

But deep down, I'm also with @lelawilley, hoping for the whole ball of wax - protections, mandates, and no-age-limit paid Medicare - I would feel awfully selfish rejoicing over just over-50 option, since I'm 15 months away and have very fortunate current insurance / employment circumstances, but all those young families out there with dire situations ...

I do know I feel far more hopeful now, after President Obama's great speech Monday, he seems to have found his footing in all this and that is a damn good sign.

Karoli · 4 months ago

I see no reason that we shouldn't keep pushing for the whole thing,
but wisely. I see so many on the left just digging in, crossing their
arms and saying "Well, if I don't get it my way then I'll dump him,
won't support him anymore." Hey, I wanted 18 months of COBRA
subsidies. I got nine. It's still nine I didn't have before. Now is
our time to act. My real point was that all those "Obama shoulda
woulda coulda" folks are missing the point. It's our voices that
matter at this point, not his.

K

dotlizard · 4 months ago

It does seem ridiculously premature in the grand scheme of things to be fussing about how the President hasn't accomplished every single thing he even alluded to during the campaign, and it's been all of 8 months - almost - since he took office.

And your point about whatever we get being more than before is perfect - even if it turns out to be just (just!) strict new regulations on pre-existings, lifetime limits, out-of-pocket expenses, etc -- whatever it is, it'll still be 100% more than any other administration has managed to deliver.