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So, Brian or who ever I talked to this morning I got your little Final notice that gave me 3 days to respond. All I have to say to you is I am sure you will get all that you deserve and I am sending you back your ill intention to scam.
As stated before this Company is working off of volume or something and is willing to get people in knowing that they probably wont read the fine prints in this case they were wrong. Also as stated in previous posts if you’re in it longer than a few days or so they penalize you for the refund or hate to say it you’re stuck in it. So I am here posting my experience….save yourself the time and don’t even bother calling them. Spread the word and help people from getting screwed over!!!
BEWARE OF Automotive Warranty Advisors & Warranty America LLC who they work closely with!!!
I'm not sure what you can do about it. It looks like some folks have had success filing complaints with the Better Business Bureau (there's a link in my post), but it's difficult to prove that you were told $50 because they do everything by phone. Unless they have a recording of that call (which I'm sure they don't), they'll claim that it has always been $80.
I'll do some research and if I find anything that will help, I'll post it in a new blog post.
Good luck!
Thanks for any insights and thanks for posting this info. My curiosity was satiated.
Thanks,
Bob
http://www.CarDealersExposed.com
bankrupt leaving me with damages done by dealers maintenance crew plus using my vehicle for spare parts.
I feel screwed blue by dealer and warranty alike. I feel Ford Motor should look out more for thier customers. I would like to join a class action law suite
against a warranty out fit that would go bankrupt in the middle of a warranty period. Itis like free money to them anyway.
He then said you did not purchase the 7 year, 100,000 mile warranty. I emphatically said Yes I did...and the phone went dead. My car is only a year old.
Thanks
I searched that BBB and they do not show up. They claim on the card that they are a member.
They will not provide documentation and want credit card or check over the phone.
When I requested something in writing, the response of the manager was to get upset with his employee as he didn't explain it right to me or something. Really weird reaction.
You could just tell by the manager's voice that he was a real snake.
-ultra
And yes, I worry about elderly getting snowed by this approach. I would not feel assured that all they do is make charges for the "warranty". This is a prime way for identity thieves to get information and suck bank accounts dry.
If I had ever purchased a new car I'd be all over the dealership and the manufacturer about this scam. They get enough complaints from previouosly satisfied customers saying that they distrust the dealer and manufacturer for sending these scammers after them (I know, they didn't) the dealers and manufacturers will respond with some clout. They depend on satisfied customers and if some scammer is making them look bad they will do all they can to change that. And they are organized.
Maybe I'll write some dealers and manufacturers anyway. The agent I spoke with said they represent "all dealers". Bull Hockey!
Sorry, they're still calling, sometimes several times a day. Even more than once an hour.
Sal
I did some research about the unnamed firm that keeps trying to fool me via the mail to buy their so-called extended warranty. Every address and phone number on the advertising leads to a Missour-based firm that contracts with other firms to perform tasks such as mass mailings, handling incoming telephone calls, etc.
The mailings I receive look like a scam in every way.
Don't look to the Better Business Bureau to protect you. A minimal amount of research will show who that organization is loyal to: BUSINESS!!!!!
Businesses are the ones that fork over the money that keeps the BBB going. The BBB is essentially powerless and really does nothing to protect the consumer. In my opinion the BBB is a scam itself when viewed from the consumer's viewpoint.
If the BBB was on the consumer's side why does the BBB keep looking the other way as the complaints about a firm pile up and nothing happens?
Face it. The vast majority of humans around you either care nothing about you or just want your money.
Some guy picks up and I go, "I got this automated call stating my warranty is expiring, yet you are not telling which car is expiring" The guy ask which is my newest car. So I tell him, and then ask for the mileage, which I have 25,000. Then he goes off with all this other noise they'd be covering and that my warranty would be extended to 2012. That's when I knew this has to be some bull shit. I knew my exact date and year my warranty should be ending, and who would be taking care of me if they were.
So, he tells me the warranty would be at $2,400 and wanted to discuss payment options, I am like wait, this is bull shit, my car is not even at 100,000 miles nor is it at my expiration date that I have right here in my hands. The moment I said that, the guy hangs up. Such bull. So, people out there, be careful, I am glad I had the common knowledge of my warranty.
I stated that I was a lawyer and he was calling my office and I wanted to know what company he worked for. I received no response in terms of a name. I threatened to sue if the calls continue.
ALL I CAN SAY IS DO NOT BUY A WARRANTY ON ANY PRODUCT YOU OWN OVER THE TELEPHONE. YOU DO NOT KNOW WHO OR WHAT YOU ARE DEALING WITH. AT BEST YOU RECEIVE A WARRANTY OF SORTS; AT WORST YOU HAVE GIVEN PRIVATE INFORMATION ABOUT YOURSELF TO A STRANGER.
It's pretty difficult to throw away a postcard that looks like the one up above. Keep in mind that these cards always come right after someone has purchased a car, and in our case, a brand-new car with a full 5-year/100K warranty on it.
My first question was: Did Toyota screw up the warranty?
Since I could find no answers to my questions, my options were to discover what this company was and how it had information about my warranty, or call them.
As you can see from the majority of the comments here, most opted to call, finding themselves in another deceptive sales loop.
Sorry, but your advice to just "throw away the cards and get a life" doesn't fly this time around. This advertising is as false as anything I've ever seen and people should know what it's really about.
I have yet to see a dealership that charges $100/hour to repair a car. I have been in the industry for many years. Mechanics are NOT getting rich, dealerships may be, small shops generally provide enough income for a decent living for the shop owner and not much more. Many shops ARE honest. I have worked both for honest and dishonest shops/dealerships and observed them from the inside out. Of course I left said dishonest shops when I became aware of their actions.
The insurance industry has infinitely more "fat" than the repair industry.
When I called about the extended warranty to gather information the company was very rude, would not provide written information, wanted my credit card over the phone, ALREADY HAD SOME OF MY INFO, had no return address or website, claimed to be a member of southeast florida bbb but they know nothing of the company.
It is a scam Mike. It is a shady company or companies trying to steal our money. You'd be better off spending 10 or 20 hours finding an honest mechanic. Mechanics can not reduce the price of the repairs by 30% because there simply isn't that much "fat" in the repair bill. Why is it that if you spend enough time on the phone with them, these companies come down hundreds of dollars in their price? They are salespeople and there is loads of fat in their $price$. And that is assuming it's not even a 100% scam altogether.
I have submitted the postcard to the BBB that they claim to be a member of.
Mike, you get a life or I suggest we meet in person if you feel obligated to insult me/us further. I will monitor the comments here to see if this offer appeals to you.
I may waste my time at tracking this Brian down though.
Sounds like this "Mike" is one of the scammers trying to cover their trash. ne-plus-ultra-1 when you're done with Mike I'd like to have a turn @ beating this little fucker too.
If there's any direct connection I can include in my letter, I'd appreciate a pointer to it. Thanks.
Hope that helps...I just had a look and they've changed server contacts several times, so it may no longer read that way.
AUTO WARRANTY ADVISORS
2660 Palm Aire Drive North
Pompano Beach, FL. 33069
Tel# 1-8666-571-7977
It also says they are a BBB SouthEast Florida member.
The wording is loaded and looks official but thanks to your blog, I got alerted.
Beware of these clowns.
I may be giving clowns a bad name!
562-289-8136
614-543-6303
281-520-3761
It's always a recorded message - something that according to FTC rules is against the rules. Advertisers are not allowed to this - here's the rule:
"FCC regulations prohibit telemarketers from using automated dialers to call cell phone numbers. Automated dialers are standard in the industry, so most telemarketers don’t call consumers on their cell phones without their consent."
This is taken from
http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/pubs/consumer/alerts...
See # 10.
You can also make inquiries my sending an email to:
dncconsumerinquiry2@ftc.gov
Which is what I'm going to do.
And you can list your Cell Number on the Do Not Call list - but it's supposed to be NOT NECESSARY according to FCC Regulations.
Note: I'm posting this here because I found the 562 phone number on this site - and I thought people should know that these scammers are doing - and they are Scammers.
The moment you ask them to identify themselves they hang up on you. And that is definitely against the FCC RULES - they are supposed to identify themselves immediately upon the beginning of the phone call.
thank you,
Otto Renoto
As to your fun - I've done that before - I can do a good impersonation of a hard of hearing old gentleman.
"Huh....Whatya say? Huh? Who ya want? Huh? Whatya Say? Huh? Whatta ya want? Huh?....Huh? Oh? Huh? What car ya mean?.....Huh? Oh?...Huh?...whatta ya want?....Huh?.....who?....Who?....WHO?...Oh?...I live next door!...Oh?.....Who?....HUH?????.....He's in da shower....Huh....Tony?....oh?...He's got one of dem prezidents cars....huh...oh...Yeah....Huh...oh..a lincoln...continent or sumting like dat. ...Yeah....3 years old..almost...I'll...tell.Tony.....(muffled through towel)...get her name and number....(unmuffled)....Me again....Huh?....He said..to get your name and number and company and he'll call you back....Huh?
And they get so p+ssed off they finally hang up, but some are greedy nd will get a special number, and fake name and fake company name - anything to get a deal!
I know better, but I'm concerned for people like my Grandpa. I wish there was something we could do.
I am so pleased to see these posts because I've become obsessed with getting these people over the last week! Both of my kids have been sick, so I've been cooped up in the house all day with calls coming in warning me "This is your final notice!" Uggh!! I figured it was a scam and did some research and found several local news stories on it. But it wasn't until now that I found people as pissed off as I am, wanting to kick these people's butts! And I'm a pretty mild-mannered person. But I'm obsessed with these annoying callers!
Someone on another site said that the scammers retaliate against reports made to the BBB by calling your house at all crazy hours of the night. Is that true? Do they know who you are when you press 1 to talk to them if you don't identify yourself?
Mike from above may be right - maybe I do need to get a life. But I still don't like him.
Buyer be aware!!!
If I'm bored I'll call them tomorrow and screw with them for a while.
Thanks for the warning.
Automotive Warranty Advisros
2660 Palm Aire Drive North
Pompano Beach, Florida 33069
Call the number on the document : 1-866-571-7977
Was immediatly told to call: 1-866-571-7974. Was put on hold with my first call (over 15 minutes). On my second call I waited 30 minutes, just to get Andrew. I asked why I goy the notice, and he stated that it was "simple" my warranty was going to expire. When I got direct with him and said it was all a bunch of #$#2 he immediately hung up. These guys are certainly directed to dump any call where they feel that the called seems to be on to their game I may call back at a later time (knowing their game now) and have a lengthy conversation with them ... revealing NO personal information and just playing Jimmy the Dunce. So glad I found this site.
I can't get in touch with them to tell them to take my name off their mailing list, so I just rip up the car in little bitty pieces and feel sorry for whomever is getting paid minimum wage for mailing them out of FL to VA.
Today she received a card, at my address, from them. It lists Florida, but no address and no web site, just an 866 number. Other than knowing it was a scam from the beginning and not doing anything about it, has anyone thought about where these scammers are getting their calling/mailing list?
Also, since my home number is on the national do not call list and I have never done business with them, it was a violation for them to call my number. Although my daughter uses my mailing address for most of her mail, she has her own cell phone and has always used it, never my number. Also, in Washington state it is illegal for any profit-oriented company to make recorded sales pitch via a phone call. Only non-profits, government agencies, and political causes can use recordings legally.
Can't stop the mailings easily, but I am going to file a formal complaint with the Washington state Attorney General. It may take awhile for them to do anything, but it has worked for me in the past (that took about 1 year before the company was put out of business and fined).
WOW!
These scammers need to teach their telemarkets some manners, otherwise, they really ARE going to lose business!
I also had a call a year or two ago from a different, less convincing company, where the guy asked me what kind of marriage I had if I couldn't even make a decision on my own? He kept on trying to make me feel like some kind of mis-treated wife. I could see how that would work with some women who aren't as comfortable with where they are at the time. Its a good ploy....but buyer beware. Anyway, he got real ugly! Basically, there are no deals that are today only but they won't give you any information about who they are and what their product really is. ALWAYS get it in writing!!!!!!!
By the way, they got no information and I called my dealership and confirmed my warranty is just fine...