odd time signatures - Latest Comments in Tracking the Swarm

Re: Tracking the Swarm

Karoli — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 21:46:45 -0000

No, I didn't :)

Re: Tracking the Swarm

tweetip — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 21:25:22 -0000

you missed my point :)

Re: Tracking the Swarm

Karoli — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 21:02:48 -0000

Well, I disagree. When I tracked, I tracked users as well as terms. Was
easy enough to choose to track users I wanted to read no matter what and
scan the timeline when I felt like it for other things.

So now I'm stuck having to follow back and block the idiots, something I
never dealt with before.

Re: Tracking the Swarm

tweetip — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 20:22:54 -0000

@karoli said: "If you just send out self-promoting links and aren't interested in conversation when u follow, I not only won't follow, I will block."

If one has access to the firehose, blocking is a myth. Twitter had many reasons for turning off the firehose. They had many reasons for turning off track.

With new architecture & ToS, many reasons will be absent & your blocking will be enforced :)

Re: Tracking the Swarm

Karoli — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 19:42:01 -0000

Thanks, I'll correct that in the post.

Re: Tracking the Swarm

tweetip — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 19:24:23 -0000

time correction: @scribeofflight 1st tweet at 02:35:33 EST

Re: Tracking the Swarm

Karoli — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 11:54:50 -0000

Yes. They have said it's a scaling problem. It's really more about forming a business model around a very valuable stream of information, as they indicated in September at BearHug camp in an interview with Steve Gillmor.

Re: Tracking the Swarm

briantroy — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 11:31:32 -0000

What? Unicorns? NOOOOO!!!! But I love unicorns :)
It is amazing the nuances we will bring to ensure we disagree. And as I've said repeatedly over the past two days - I don't think we really disagree.
The power of your anecdotes is obvious and compelling - and they are, in fact, powered by a scope of trackable data that is very large. But, as I've said on multiple occasions, I agree that the wider the scope of the trackable data the greater the potential value.
My point isn't that less scope is good, it is that you can achieve value (discovery and participation in real time - mobile or otherwise) with a limited trackable scope. I don't suggest we should abandon the effort to have services/networks "open up" and share the full data.
All I suggest is that we open up the track community to anyone working on solving the problem(s) of real time information discovery and participation. Make it inclusive - and not bear hug anyone who says - "hey we can do something here, even if we don't have the fire-hose".

So we agree - but we don't. I'd love to be involved in the track community - but since I don't have a fire-hose of data to create solutions on... I guess I can't. I believe that my non-track limited information discovery and participation solutions will help the track community gain the leverage required to get the services to "open up". Hope that is enough.

Re: Tracking the Swarm

Amy Gahran — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 10:42:55 -0000

Did Twitter ever explain why they turned off tracking?

- Amy