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Re: Valleywag Crosses the Line

Phill Midwinter — Mon, 14 May 2007 06:50:24 -0000

Nick Denton is nothing but a sensationalist tabloid hack. He's a complete gobshite with no journalist foundation to any of his articles which is how he tries to gain readership. He thinks by inciting rows (check out his latest trolling post) he'll up the circulation at valleyrag.

Re: Valleywag Crosses the Line

Mike — Sat, 12 May 2007 18:03:28 -0000

I think really that the question is whether MC Hammer has ever done anything to prove he's worthy of being on the panel of experts other than adding a "colorful" voice... nothing wrong with that, but what exactly is he an expert in that has to do with qualifying him to judge these start-ups? I the idea of him being there actually, but I wouldn't call him an expert. Therefore I agree that it could be seen as a token.

Re: Valleywag Crosses the Line

Paul Montgomery — Fri, 11 May 2007 16:31:04 -0000

Why not wait until after the conference to pass judgment on whether Hammer is a worthwhile speaker? Who knows, he might be entertaining and/or insightful. Stranger things have happened.

Re: Valleywag Crosses the Line

karoli — Fri, 11 May 2007 16:29:53 -0000

So Nick, who's really being "politically correct" here? You claim that adding diversity to the panel is tokenism, but not adding diversity to the panel is typical inbred culture thinking. There doesn't seem to be a way to please you at all. If their photos hadn't been splashed under the Benetton ad (and what is that all about anyway -- what does the ad have to do with the article?), would you have criticized Techcrunch for not publicizing them the way others have been?

Here's the Panel Profile Page. Same size photos, same size bios. Nothing different whatsoever. So what exactly was your issue with having them in a blog post announcing the addition?

Re: Valleywag Crosses the Line

karoli — Fri, 11 May 2007 16:24:09 -0000

Here

Re: Valleywag Crosses the Line

Shelley Powers — Fri, 11 May 2007 16:16:43 -0000

Where's the Valleywag link?

Re: Valleywag Crosses the Line

Nick Denton — Fri, 11 May 2007 15:40:24 -0000

If the race and gender qualifications of the three additions had nothing to do with their selection, why emblazon their faces, like a multi-ethnic Benetton ad, across the top of Techcrunch? Everybody knows that these panels, and lists of top people in tech, are adjusted, often as an afterthought, to promote diversity. You think that's the solution to Silicon Valley's inbred culture?

Re: Valleywag Crosses the Line

karoli — Fri, 11 May 2007 14:44:32 -0000

This isn't about political correctness, and I'm not as clueless as you think. Why'd you choose out Hammer? Why'd you describe the others as "eminently qualified", AFTER describing them in terms of their race. Does Caterina Fake's gender and genetic composition have one damn thing to do with her qualifications? If they don't, why bring it up?

Look, we all know the old saw about Silicon Valley being "whitebread soft" and all that. But you allege tokenism only with regard to Hammer and not anyone else. That's race-baiting, pure and simple.

Re: Valleywag Crosses the Line

michael arrington — Fri, 11 May 2007 14:41:57 -0000

calm down, nick. We just think he'll add a lot to the conversation. No need to make this a race war.

Re: Valleywag Crosses the Line

Nick Denton — Fri, 11 May 2007 14:23:52 -0000

You really are as clueless as Michael Arrington when it comes to "diversity". The target of that item, as anyone who wasn't blinded by political correctness would realize, was not the token black man, but the all-white clique that so patronizingly drops a black man, any black man, onto a panel, so that they themselves look less monochromatic. If anybody thinks that meets some standard of race-blindness, they're deluding themselves. Yes, Valleywag belittles and denigrates: the dorky white guys when the wake up and remember they have to show diversity; and the unthinking commentators, who give even political correctness a bad name, such as you.